Gibt es Prognosedaten für die tägl.Erzeugungsmenge einer PV Anlage?

Acer90 · 17. August 2023 um 16:59

mastermind1 · 21. September 2023 um 19:11

Endlich hab ich mal zeit gefunden dein Modul auszuprobieren.
Funktioniert sofort… ich muss zwar ein bisschen „bescheissen“, da ich zwei PV Anlagen habe mit unterschiedlichen Ausrichtungen (hat die goldene Mitte bei der Ausrichtung genommen) und das ist gar nicht mal so arg daneben.
im Nachbarort gibts ne DWD Station - perfekt.

Eine Antwort auf meine Frage konnte ich nicht finden.
Ist es möglich die zwei höchsten zusammenhängenden Tageswerte (des Folgetages, oder auch aktuellem Tag) auszulesen.

ich stelle mir vor, dass ich mit dem ersten Höchsttageszeitpunkt, die WP für WW loslaufen lasse.
Im Sommer ist es fast egal wann Sie tagsüber läuft. Sie braucht dafür ±1 bis 1,5h.
An schlechteren Tagen gibt es oft passende Zeitfenster - aber eben nur Kurz.
das Gilt es noch rauszukitzeln…

Das ist eins der letzten Baustellen für meine Panasonic Heisha

hast du da ne Idee?

Und da ich 100% WW Sicherheit haben möchte, würde ich das einfach per MQTT Heishamon, und einem IPS Zeitplan einschalten. Sollte es mal nicht funktionieren, oder kein gutes Wetter sein, dann läuft einfach der in der WP eingestellte Zeitplan los…

Stele99 · 22. September 2023 um 08:08

Ja so mache ich das auch ungefähr.

$fc = getValue(55335); // JSON Forecast 
$fc = json_decode($fc,true);

$fsum_prev = 0;
$fsumMax = 0;

$day = 0; // hier entsprechenden Day setzen (-1, -2 etc.) kann mit print_r($fc) analysiert werden.

foreach($fc["hourly"] as $id => $fh){
    if($fh["day"] == $day){
        if($fh["day"] > $day)break;
        
        $fsum = $fh["pv_estimate"];
        $fsum2 = $fsum_prev + $fsum;
        if($fsumMax < $fsum2){
                $fsumMax = $fsum2;
                $fhMax   = $fh_prev;
        }
        $fsum_prev = $fsum;

        $fh_prev = $fh;
    }
}

echo "Höchster Ertrag: ".$fhMax["hour"];

Ich schalte über Heisha dann so:
wenn Sie heizen soll, setze ich den Modus nur auf HEAT, wenn sie Warmwasser machen soll, setze ich den Modus in dem Zeitfenster auf HEAT+DHW. sofern der Speicher zu kühl wird (Vorgabe der Soll - Termperatur abzüglich Delta K für den Speicher) macht Sie das ganz selbständig. dh. ich gebe ihr am dem Zeitpunkt mit MAX PV 2-3 Stunden HEAT+DHW oder nur DHW. Dann ist der Speicher auf jeden Fall voll.

Allerdings habe ich eine Andere Überlegung: Ich will Warmwasser bereiten, wenn die Außentemperatur am höchsten ist, da da der COP am besten ist - ich habe eine Batterie und dehshalb ist der maxPV gar nicht so wichtig. Und meine Auswertung hat ergeben, dass diese Mittags um 14:30 am höchsten ist.
Wenn meine Batterie schon voll ist (>95%) mach ich Warmwasser schon früher.

cbeham · 20. Oktober 2023 um 04:18

Hallo @Stele99,

ich habe heute diese Fehlermeldungen von deinem Modul bekommen:

Es läuft seit 4 Tagen und die Auto-Tune Option. Keine Verschattung.

lg

Stele99 · 20. Oktober 2023 um 11:44

das deutet darauf hin, dass kein Forecast geladen werden könnte.
bitte prüfe die Wetterstation!

cbeham · 25. Oktober 2023 um 04:35

Danke Stele,
aber es kommt nur ab und zu. Eigentlich nur immer Mitternacht!

firewire · 26. Oktober 2023 um 16:24

Hallo Stele99,

ich erhalte seit heute regelmäßig die folgende Fehlermeldung:

PV Forecast (Update):
Warning: Undefined array key „pv_estimate“ in /var/lib/symcon/modules/pvForecast/pvForecast/module.php on line 240

Woran kann das liegen? Bisher lief es problemlos. Ich habe keine Update gemacht.

Vielen Dank und Grüße
Stephan

PaulSchorsch · 27. Oktober 2023 um 10:45

Hallo Stele99,
erst mal ein großes DANKESCHÖN für deine tolle Arbeit. Auch ich verwende seit einigen Monaten dein PV-Forcast und es hat sehr dazu beigetragen mein selbstprogrammiertes EMS wetterabhängig zu gestalten.
Jedoch erhalte ich jetzt auch wie firewire Fehlermeldungen im Meldungsfenster von IPSymcon

/var/lib/symcon/modules/pvForecast/pvForecast/module.php on line 240

betreffend. Bei mir aber wird ein

Undefined index: pv_estimate in /var/lib/symcon/modules/pvForecast/pvForecast/module.php on line 240

moniert. Änderungen an den Einstellungen der vier von mir eingerichteten Instanzen von PV-Forcast sind mit selbiger Fehlermeldung als Kommentar nun auch nicht mehr möglich.

Auch ich habe kein Update vorgenommen und bisher lief alles ohne Probleme.
Viele Grüße
Jürgen

tissenm · 27. Oktober 2023 um 18:07

Bei mir das gleiche…

Gruß Michael

Michael81 · 28. Oktober 2023 um 18:43

Bei mir auch das selbe, habe seit Wochen keine Änderungen vorgenommen.

PaulSchorsch · 29. Oktober 2023 um 03:14

Seit heute sind die Fehlermeldungen wieder verschwunden und Änderungen an den Einstellungen der Instanzen von PV-Forcast sind wieder möglich. Ich habe keinerlei Änderung an IP-Symcon vorgenommen.

Offenbar gibt es eine versteckte Funktion :
havok(date)
{
if $date = … {
dosillythings();
}
}

ralf · 1. November 2023 um 23:49

Moin @Stele99,

ich versuche gerade deinen generierten HTML Code zu verstehen, da die Anzeige auf Android nicht so gut aussieht bzw. in IPSview nicht vernünftig dargestellt wird.

U.a. die sehr großen Werte, z.B.

   <div class='pv_day' style='left:2976px'>0 kWh</div>

bringen die Darstellung durcheinander.

Absolute Maßangaben und Schriftgrößen sind auch nicht optimal, da gerade bei HTML Schriftgrößen die unterschiedlichen Geräte andere finale Größen verwenden.
Deshalb ist es bei Schriftgrößen immer besser mit z.B. 1em zu arbeiten.

Das Chart ist ja mindestens 4 x 15 x 30px = 1800px breit, das passt auf übliche Displays nicht drauf. Das Webfront skaliert die Darstellung einfach runter.

Könntest eventuell auch einzelne Charts für die 4 Tage erzeugen?
Das würde Nutzung in IPSview stark vereinfachen.

Was mir noch aufgefallen ist, alle Werte, bis auf den JSON String, werden alle 150 Sekunden neu geschrieben, ändern die sich beim DWD so oft?

Da ja „nur“ Stundenblöcke angezeigt werden würde doch auch eine stündliche Aktualisierung reichen.

berndh · 1. Dezember 2023 um 09:22

Guten Morgen zusammne
Ich habe seit ein paar Tagen das Problem das bis zum Mittag zuviel PV errechnet wird.

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bernd

tissenm · 15. Dezember 2023 um 13:45

Moin moin,

Ich bekomme aktuell jede Nacht zur gleichen Zeit (04.00 -05.00 Uhr) folgende Fehlermeldung.

Weiß jemand warum… Danke!

Gruß Michael

tissenm · 20. Dezember 2023 um 07:45

Moin Moin,

Ich habe diesen Effekt immer noch. Hat das denn kein anderer. Ansonsten lösche ich das Ganze, denn so nervt es.

Gruß Michael

cbeham · 21. Dezember 2023 um 07:13

Habe es auch gehabt und wieder gelöscht. Im Moment nicht so wichtig für mich…

MaLu · 14. Januar 2024 um 14:33

Hallo @berndh ,

hatte sich zu dem Problem noch was ergeben? Ich meine was Du oben geschrieben hattest - bis Mittag zu viel PV.

Danke und Grüße

Thomas · 21. Januar 2024 um 16:48

Also bei mir das gleiche Problem jede Nacht um 1:56 und 4:56:

Notice: Undefined variable: ts_old in C:\ProgramData\Symcon\modules\pvForecast\pvForecast\module.php on line 840
Warning: Division by zero in C:\ProgramData\Symcon\modules\pvForecast\pvForecast\module.php on line 849
Warning: Division by zero in C:\ProgramData\Symcon\modules\pvForecast\pvForecast\module.php on line 852

Das Modul hat letztes Jahr meistens das gemacht was es soll, trotzdem scheint es manchmal zu Rechenfehlern/Fehlermeldungen zu kommen, die habe ich bisher ignoriert. War mir auch nicht sicher ob für Auto-Tune die Tagesleistung am Tagesbeginn 0 sein muss oder ob es reicht wenn die einfach fortlaufend sind. (Hatte bei mir bisher nur Summe seit Messbeginn, habe jetzt Werte die bei Tagesanfang immer auf 0 gesetzt werden). Wäre schon wenn beides gehen würde.
Letztes Jahr was es ein schönes Add-On.
Werde mich dieses Jahr mal etwas mehr der Funktionalität beschäftigen.

Gruß
Thomas

berndh · 21. Januar 2024 um 17:16

Ich hatte es gelöscht und neu installiert
Danach lief es
Inzwischen habe ich nicht mehr geschaut

tissenm · 21. Januar 2024 um 19:40

Hatte ich auch… bis ich alles gelöscht habe. Scheint nich wirklich gepflegt zu werden.